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		<title>By: DidiMidi</title>
		<link>http://www.jayceooi.com/2008/12/26/left-4-dead-crash-fix/#comment-79274</link>
		<dc:creator>DidiMidi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks!! I was going desperate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks!! I was going desperate.</p>
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		<title>By: agung</title>
		<link>http://www.jayceooi.com/2008/12/26/left-4-dead-crash-fix/#comment-78947</link>
		<dc:creator>agung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 12:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks thanks thanks thanks !!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks thanks thanks thanks !!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: bbf</title>
		<link>http://www.jayceooi.com/2008/12/26/left-4-dead-crash-fix/#comment-73426</link>
		<dc:creator>bbf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 00:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesnt even load for me anymore...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesnt even load for me anymore&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rowell</title>
		<link>http://www.jayceooi.com/2008/12/26/left-4-dead-crash-fix/#comment-66389</link>
		<dc:creator>rowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 16:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thnx ur my hero! ^_^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thnx ur my hero! ^_^</p>
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		<title>By: jrom</title>
		<link>http://www.jayceooi.com/2008/12/26/left-4-dead-crash-fix/#comment-62234</link>
		<dc:creator>jrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 00:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanx man 
I was so upset cause its a new pc with hd 6950 2gb and the game was crashing but now so far so good
keep up the good work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanx man<br />
I was so upset cause its a new pc with hd 6950 2gb and the game was crashing but now so far so good<br />
keep up the good work</p>
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		<title>By: aj style</title>
		<link>http://www.jayceooi.com/2008/12/26/left-4-dead-crash-fix/#comment-61976</link>
		<dc:creator>aj style</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you very much my left 4 dead now runs perfectly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you very much my left 4 dead now runs perfectly</p>
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		<title>By: popopwaod</title>
		<link>http://www.jayceooi.com/2008/12/26/left-4-dead-crash-fix/#comment-61785</link>
		<dc:creator>popopwaod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 02:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it works but now it lags not crash as in the part when its gona crash instead of crashing it lags how do i fix his?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it works but now it lags not crash as in the part when its gona crash instead of crashing it lags how do i fix his?</p>
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		<title>By: rappido</title>
		<link>http://www.jayceooi.com/2008/12/26/left-4-dead-crash-fix/#comment-55035</link>
		<dc:creator>rappido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2011 09:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if works perfectly... tnx man....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if works perfectly&#8230; tnx man&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://www.jayceooi.com/2008/12/26/left-4-dead-crash-fix/#comment-54840</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it wont let me go to windowed no boreder</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it wont let me go to windowed no boreder</p>
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		<title>By: farhang</title>
		<link>http://www.jayceooi.com/2008/12/26/left-4-dead-crash-fix/#comment-51962</link>
		<dc:creator>farhang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 18:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thaaaaaaaaaaaanx ..man ... works perfect</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thaaaaaaaaaaaanx ..man &#8230; works perfect</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://www.jayceooi.com/2008/12/26/left-4-dead-crash-fix/#comment-48921</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 12:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanx man..... it really worked.

time to kick ass</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanx man&#8230;.. it really worked.</p>
<p>time to kick ass</p>
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		<title>By: Tan</title>
		<link>http://www.jayceooi.com/2008/12/26/left-4-dead-crash-fix/#comment-47443</link>
		<dc:creator>Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 14:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thx a lot man....
:D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thx a lot man&#8230;.<br />
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		<title>By: cedric</title>
		<link>http://www.jayceooi.com/2008/12/26/left-4-dead-crash-fix/#comment-47123</link>
		<dc:creator>cedric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks man   helped a lot</description>
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		<title>By: Gabriel</title>
		<link>http://www.jayceooi.com/2008/12/26/left-4-dead-crash-fix/#comment-29447</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 21:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thank you very much for your post sit.</description>
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		<title>By: Ardie</title>
		<link>http://www.jayceooi.com/2008/12/26/left-4-dead-crash-fix/#comment-19627</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Oct 2010 11:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>works well for me too... (Powercolor HD 4650 1G DDR3)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>works well for me too&#8230; (Powercolor HD 4650 1G DDR3)</p>
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		<title>By: SIR-thanks a lot</title>
		<link>http://www.jayceooi.com/2008/12/26/left-4-dead-crash-fix/#comment-19013</link>
		<dc:creator>SIR-thanks a lot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 17:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IT WORKED!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IT WORKED!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Raphaelle</title>
		<link>http://www.jayceooi.com/2008/12/26/left-4-dead-crash-fix/#comment-15527</link>
		<dc:creator>Raphaelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 07:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can u plz tell me how to fix the non steam version of l4d cause i have the same problem too T.T</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can u plz tell me how to fix the non steam version of l4d cause i have the same problem too T.T</p>
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		<title>By: Roma</title>
		<link>http://www.jayceooi.com/2008/12/26/left-4-dead-crash-fix/#comment-14959</link>
		<dc:creator>Roma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you! now the game never crashes!</description>
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		<title>By: sameprob</title>
		<link>http://www.jayceooi.com/2008/12/26/left-4-dead-crash-fix/#comment-14783</link>
		<dc:creator>sameprob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 01:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have the same problem how can we change the &quot;in game settings&quot; if we can&#039;t reach the main menu without it crashes it goes valve screen -&gt; opening video -&gt; left4dead loading for a couple of seconds then stops working HELLLLPPPPPP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have the same problem how can we change the &#8220;in game settings&#8221; if we can&#8217;t reach the main menu without it crashes it goes valve screen -&gt; opening video -&gt; left4dead loading for a couple of seconds then stops working HELLLLPPPPPP</p>
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		<title>By: vimal</title>
		<link>http://www.jayceooi.com/2008/12/26/left-4-dead-crash-fix/#comment-13649</link>
		<dc:creator>vimal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 22:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in settings option before you start the game !</description>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.jayceooi.com/2008/12/26/left-4-dead-crash-fix/#comment-12750</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 12:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i tried it for 5h start and  the game doesn&#039;t crash but it does lag for 5s-10s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i tried it for 5h start and  the game doesn&#8217;t crash but it does lag for 5s-10s</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.jayceooi.com/2008/12/26/left-4-dead-crash-fix/#comment-12748</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 11:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey if all those still deosn&#039;t work try this &quot;go to options, video, change Trilinear to Antrostopic 2x, disable multiplayer rendering core, change all to medium, change  double buffered to triple buffered. (hope this works :))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey if all those still deosn&#8217;t work try this &#8220;go to options, video, change Trilinear to Antrostopic 2x, disable multiplayer rendering core, change all to medium, change  double buffered to triple buffered. (hope this works <img src='http://www.jayceooi.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.jayceooi.com/2008/12/26/left-4-dead-crash-fix/#comment-12747</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 10:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i cant find &quot;setting.defaulters&quot;</description>
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		<title>By: Andyong</title>
		<link>http://www.jayceooi.com/2008/12/26/left-4-dead-crash-fix/#comment-12656</link>
		<dc:creator>Andyong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 08:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been looking into crashing issues on my bro&#039;s pc for ages now. Same kind of thing game could play less than 5 mins and crash or could play 30 mins then crash. Finally figured out that this game crashes for a number of reasons that I&#039;ll list below.
He has Saphire 4870 1Gb vapor-x, 4Gb ram, Core2quad Q9550.
1) Identified his first problem to insufficient power to the GPU. He had a 750W power supply which I thought was sufficient for a single gfx card. Turned out this Winpower psu only had 35amps going to the 12v rails, and even that was split over 2 rails with most of it going to the motherboard instead of the 2nd 12v rail (which the gfx card and hard disks, etc. would be using). In summary what that meant was out of the 750W, only a small amount of the power was actually being passed to the GFX card which was insufficient as the 4870 will require at least about 25amps to itself. Bought a corsair power supply and that fixed that problem (was crashing even with multicore rendering off and detail turned down, though was a more stable while heavily underclocked, which makes sense as it wouldn&#039;t be sucking as much power).
2) As described above multicore rendering was still causing crashing even on the new psu. Turned that off and there was a massive drop in performance, but at least it wouldn&#039;t crash. He has a quad core which seems to be particularly prone to multicore rendering crashes (again makes sense as the game has to synchronise processing from 4 streams instead of 2 on a core2duo which will be more prone to sync failures). Not sure if there is anything that can be done about this. One theory I had is that if all 4 cores are under heavy load then the most you can do is make sure each of those cores can process their streams as fast as possible without bottlenecks. RAM would be the most obvious potential bottleneck as if at any point there is insufficient RAM available to one of the cores it will result in paging to the hard disk (slooooow) and significantly slow down the processing of that core which would knock it out of sync, or cause a stutter if it can recover quickly. This is only a theory as I haven&#039;t got another 4Gb to put in just yet, but will be curious to see if it&#039;s anymore stable at all. In meantime I may see if killing background processes (AV, firewall, etc.) will make any diffference as they are all using up resources of their own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been looking into crashing issues on my bro&#8217;s pc for ages now. Same kind of thing game could play less than 5 mins and crash or could play 30 mins then crash. Finally figured out that this game crashes for a number of reasons that I&#8217;ll list below.<br />
He has Saphire 4870 1Gb vapor-x, 4Gb ram, Core2quad Q9550.<br />
1) Identified his first problem to insufficient power to the GPU. He had a 750W power supply which I thought was sufficient for a single gfx card. Turned out this Winpower psu only had 35amps going to the 12v rails, and even that was split over 2 rails with most of it going to the motherboard instead of the 2nd 12v rail (which the gfx card and hard disks, etc. would be using). In summary what that meant was out of the 750W, only a small amount of the power was actually being passed to the GFX card which was insufficient as the 4870 will require at least about 25amps to itself. Bought a corsair power supply and that fixed that problem (was crashing even with multicore rendering off and detail turned down, though was a more stable while heavily underclocked, which makes sense as it wouldn&#8217;t be sucking as much power).<br />
2) As described above multicore rendering was still causing crashing even on the new psu. Turned that off and there was a massive drop in performance, but at least it wouldn&#8217;t crash. He has a quad core which seems to be particularly prone to multicore rendering crashes (again makes sense as the game has to synchronise processing from 4 streams instead of 2 on a core2duo which will be more prone to sync failures). Not sure if there is anything that can be done about this. One theory I had is that if all 4 cores are under heavy load then the most you can do is make sure each of those cores can process their streams as fast as possible without bottlenecks. RAM would be the most obvious potential bottleneck as if at any point there is insufficient RAM available to one of the cores it will result in paging to the hard disk (slooooow) and significantly slow down the processing of that core which would knock it out of sync, or cause a stutter if it can recover quickly. This is only a theory as I haven&#8217;t got another 4Gb to put in just yet, but will be curious to see if it&#8217;s anymore stable at all. In meantime I may see if killing background processes (AV, firewall, etc.) will make any diffference as they are all using up resources of their own.</p>
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		<title>By: Apocalypse</title>
		<link>http://www.jayceooi.com/2008/12/26/left-4-dead-crash-fix/#comment-12169</link>
		<dc:creator>Apocalypse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 04:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its not about the spec&#039;s making the game crash. I went to this site www.twiztedfreaker.blogspot.com and follow everything whats in  it. I played the game till end! no more crashing issue&#039;s!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its not about the spec&#8217;s making the game crash. I went to this site <a href="http://www.twiztedfreaker.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.twiztedfreaker.blogspot.com</a> and follow everything whats in  it. I played the game till end! no more crashing issue&#8217;s!!</p>
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